Eeeelastiiicity*: To Crochet or Not to Crochet?

Be very, very quiet.

Pile of Lady Eleanor

Here we have the rare and elegant Lady Eleanor Entrelac Stole captured on camera, asleep in her native habitat. This specimen appears to be a juvenile, as she lacks the signature knotted fringe and crocheted edge of more mature beasts.

I thought you might be tired of Birch porn, so here we have entertainment provided by the fancy Lady Eleanor. Last night I attended the mammoth Spiders yarn dyeing event, *very* graciously hosted by Marie of Brooklyn Handspun, and of which you will hear presently. When Tres Chic Veronique told me her Lady Eleanor was complete, I was immediately inspired to come back and finish mine. Except then the yarn dyeing went on for another six hours, and I ran out of steam. But no matter.

When I revisited Lady E. this morning and checked out the crocheted edge I'd done some weeks ago, I thought better of it and removed the edge. And in comes my question for you. Do you think a crocheted edge is imperative for creating the right kind of fringe for this wrap? Because my beef with the crocheted edge is that it is soooo inelastic, whereas the rest of the shawl is quite elastic in width. That's a pet peeve of mine, and the reason for the recent frogging of the first incarnation of Birch. Especially because my Lady E. is somewhat narrower than the wrap in the pattern, I'd like to maximize the width within.

The plan is, I think, to block the body of Lady E. and proceed with the fringe and without the crocheted edge. Any thoughts on how this might go?

* Sung to tune of the Captain Beefheart number "Electricity." Or "Eeeeeeeeelectriiiicity."

Posted by jess at January 29, 2006 9:54 AM

Your logic makes perfect sense to me. I'd go for it.

Posted by: Chris at January 29, 2006 11:01 AM

hrmmm... no idea about the crochet edge since I'm just barely starting, but you can also try asking Stephanie of Craftoholic. She has also made one. But a question for you, how wide is your shawl pre and post blocking. I got gauge on 10.5s and started out on it and the thing is 25 inches wide! WTF? Anyways, Hope you're having a good weekend. Sounds like a ton o'fun so far.

Posted by: Angela at January 29, 2006 12:37 PM

I'm not very familiar with the pattern, but what you're saying makes sense, and sounds very doable. I don't think it would detract from the overall beauty not to have the crocheted edging. Maybe you could attach the fringe just like it's attached to a normal scarf, by looping and knotting it through a hole in the knit fabric. Good luck! It's going to be beautiful!

Posted by: Julia at January 29, 2006 2:44 PM

Hiya, Long time lurker! I`ve really enjoyed reading your site. I just finished Lady Eleanor and I did what Julia in the comments said and just knotted it through a hole in the fabric. I actually liked how it turned out it makes the look rustic and is still very flexible. Good luck with yours!

Posted by: lulu at January 29, 2006 3:07 PM

I am not sure you really need the fringe at all for Lady Eleanor. It's a beautiful piece, but I have always been iffy about the fringe in all the pictures I see of it. The scarf itself, it speaks to me, but the fringe, it's like those negative grumbles in the background.

Have you considered no fringe at all?

Posted by: Laura at January 29, 2006 3:43 PM

oh! I just found the lady eleanor along the other day. very pretty in person, much better than the book. Your dyed skein is gorgeous, by the way.
what digi cam do you use? I'm looking for a nice little one.

Posted by: Julia at January 29, 2006 5:25 PM

I'm going to ditto Laura on this. I don't think the fringe is necessary at all. The Lady E's beauty to me is in part because of her substantial-ness (not a word, yeah)... and I think the fringe is sort of frou-frou and detracts from the weight of the garment. But if you must fringe, your rationale seems good to me.

Posted by: kristiface at January 29, 2006 7:08 PM

I'm going to disagree with every one: I think the fringe makes Eleanor!
Tech details: my stole is 18" wide, and I attached a fringe in every other sc, for a total of 26. They are spaced .75" apart.
Great meeting you on sat!

Posted by: Veronique at January 30, 2006 10:57 AM

I attached the fringe without a crocheted edge on my Lady E like Veronique did, and it worked and looks fine. I also love the fringe, it gives some airyness to this pretty solid wrap.

Posted by: Steph at January 30, 2006 12:09 PM

To fringe or not to fringe? That's the wonderful thing, you can or you don't have to. I haven't gotten to that point yet, but I wouldn't think you'd have to do the crochet edge first. Do a few inches and see how it looks...

I love the up close and fuzzy pic!!

Posted by: jillian at January 30, 2006 12:17 PM

TCV's Lady Eleanor is stunning - I can't wait to see yours in full! I'm not sure about the fringe though - kind of depends on the look you're going for maybe? For me it'd be unfringed, because I'm not a fringe-y kind of gal.

Posted by: The Skirt at January 30, 2006 5:03 PM

I'm not a big fringe person - but I agree with you about the inelasticity of crocheted edgings. If you're going to do the fringe, I definitely would do it without the crochet edge. :)

reply to your comment: The bag was constructed in 3 pieces (excluding the strap) - on the back and front (which were identical), the first and last 15 stitches on each side (about 2.5" for each 15 sts) were used to create the sides of the bag (so, on the front piece there was 1/2 of one side, the front piece, and 1/2 of the other side) . They were knit along with the rest of the front/back, but in the finishing they were sewn to create the side of the bag. Like I wrote on my blog, I used plastic canvas to create the more "boxy" look, so the 3 piece construction was no biggie. Hopefully that makes sense! :) The finishing was absolutely the most tedious part of the bag, the knitting was the fun part :)

Posted by: Ariane at January 30, 2006 8:28 PM

Goodness! You're talking about Eleanor my friend is thinking about naming her baby Eleanor, I think I want an Eleanor for myself! Someone is trying to talk me into participating in the Knitting Olympics and I think Lady Eleanor will be my project. But I'll be making a skinny Eleanor because I only have 10 skeins. How many skeins did you use for yours? And no crocheted edge, i think it'll look fab! I plan on leaving mine off too, tassels and the zipper on my jeans don't always get along!

Posted by: Aimee at January 31, 2006 1:51 PM

I personally adore the fringe and it was one of the reasons I chose to do my Lady E!

yours is gorgeous btw!

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